M-20 è stato in Italia!

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PANZER IV GIO
00Friday, December 13, 2013 8:38 PM
Ciao a tutti scusate la richiesta che può sembrare stupida,ma non conoscendo bene i mezzi americani volevo delle delucidazioni sul mezzo in questione!
Volevo sapere se è stato operativo anche in Italia!
Grazie anticipatamente per L'aiuto!
Giorgio
enrico0195
00Friday, December 13, 2013 8:48 PM
facendo una breve ricerca su wikipedia ho trovato questo
"Gli M20 furono schierati principalmente nei battaglioni cacciacarri, con 30 veicoli per battaglione con compiti sia di veicolo comando si come veicoli trasporto truppe, nei battaglioni anticarro con artiglieria trainato erano presenti 10 di questi veicoli con compiti analoghi.
I primi M20 operarono in Italia con gli otto battaglioni cacciacarri stanziati su quel fronte, tuttavia, dato che il fronte italiano non aveva un'alta priorità per l'esercito statunitense, molto spesso questi veicoli furono sostituiti nell'impiego dai semicingolati M2. In tutta la campagna sul fronte italiano furono persi 72 M20 per la maggior parte nel 1945, soprattutto a causa di mine.
Nell'ETO gli M20 operarono per tutta la campagna in stretta collaborazione con le autoblindo M8, subendo la perdita di 446 veicoli, con un picco di 277 veicoli nel dicembre 1944. Un M20 fu modificato in modo da poter essere utilizzato come veicolo comando dal Generale Patton.
Nel teatro di operazioni del Pacifico (PTO) gli M20 furono usati in piccolo numero, particolarmente nei combattimenti nelle Filippine e ad Okinawa dall'esercito. Non operarono mai con i marines.
L'unico utilizzatore dell'M20 (escluso l'esercito americano) furono le forze della Francia Libera, con 205 veicoli."
quindi si sono stai usati in italia,spero di esserti stato utile [SM=g27811]
MARCUS(65)
00Friday, December 13, 2013 8:58 PM
PER ORA SU WIKYPEDIA IN INGLESE NON SI MENZIONA UN USO IN ITALIA....
MARCUS(65)
00Friday, December 13, 2013 9:01 PM
X ENRICO
andro' a rivedermi wikypedia....sono diventato orbo allora...eheheh.ciao.
enrico0195
00Friday, December 13, 2013 9:03 PM
Re: X ENRICO
MARCUS(65), 13/12/2013 21:01:

andro' a rivedermi wikypedia....sono diventato orbo allora...eheheh.ciao.


guarda vedendo su wikipedia in inglese in effeti non posso che darti ragione non cita nessun utilizzo in italia [SM=g27811] ,ma nella pagina dedicata in italiano salta fuori quello che ho scritto sopra,in ogni caso trovi tutto qui

it.wikipedia.org/wiki/M20_(trasporto_truppe)#Utilizzo_nella_Seconda_guerra_...
MARCUS(65)
00Friday, December 13, 2013 10:23 PM
x ENRICO
GRAZIE..infatti wikypedia inglese mi hA reindirizato sull'M8...
PanzergrilloII
00Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:22 AM
Giorgio, Giorgio...
Se te lo dico io, credimi... [SM=g27835] [SM=g27835] [SM=g27835]
PANZER IV GIO
00Monday, December 16, 2013 8:34 PM
Grazie Ragazzi!
cestus72
00Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:00 AM
Sicily and Italy[edit]



A M10 of the 701st TD Btn advancing along a mountain road, in an example of the broken terrain common in Italy
The second theater of operations for tank destroyer units was the Italian campaign, beginning with the landings in Sicily in July 1943, and continuing into mainland Italy that September. While German armor was present in the theater, it was rarely committed to battle in large groups; this was partly a result of the broken, heavily cultivated, terrain, but also due to a growing conservatism and defensive ethos on the German side. As a result, the tank destroyers found themselves used for a variety of other tasks, most commonly local artillery support.
A report in late 1944, reviewing the use of tank destroyer units in combat, found that in practice they were often expected to fulfill the roles of armor support:
During the planning stage for an attack it was found that practically without exception the infantry commanders were reasonable in their requirements and expectations of support by the tank destroyers. But once the battle was joined, the original plans with few exceptions were often discarded and the destroyers were ordered to go forward as tanks ahead of the infantry...[8]
When operating with armored forces, it was common to attach a company or a platoon to a tank battalion or company, and use them in an overwatch role. When operating in defense, tanks and tank destroyers were pooled as a rear-area reserve and brought into the line to blunt tank-led attacks against infantry positions.
A major lesson learned from the Italian campaign was that the conversion to towed guns was not as advantageous as had been previously thought. The mobility and protection of the tank destroyer was found to outweigh the towed anti-tank gun's low profile. At Anzio, a number of British towed anti-tank gun units were overrun and knocked out simply because they were unable to redeploy on short notice, while self-propelled guns were able to fall back and continue fighting.
In Italy, the M3 GMC was replaced by the M10. Although the M10 was incapable of dealing with the frontal arc of Panther tanks and Tiger tanks, it was more than efficient against most enemy armor encountered in Italy, and against heavy tanks from the flank. The M18 was first deployed in the summer of 1944, and was not seen as a great success in the Italian theater; its high speed was only of limited use in the restricted terrain, and as a result it was effectively a slightly up-gunned but substantially less survivable M10
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